Yeah.

We're going to take the skills that we've learned in the previous video

about type on a path and turn it into a circle, type on a path.

Okay.

So we've got text along the top and wrapping around in the bottom

making this cool kind of badge thing.

All right.

Let's jump in. Actually,

before we begin, right at the end there, I notice a problem with mine.

And a few of the other students have updated

the video to have a little like, why can't I resize it?

The text is doing weird stuff that is wrong at the end.

But to get started, let's make this thing okay.

First up, we need the Ellipse Tool and we're going to draw perfect circle.

What key do we hold down on our keyboard.

That's right. Shift okay.

And I'm going to draw some sort of size.

And I'm going to grab my type tool.

And I'm going to remember why we have the type in the path.

So in the last video I said I don't even know why we have this tool.

It's because if you just have the type tool and you go to the edge and click it,

it turns the whole circle into a text area box.

Okay. So that's why we have that tool okay.

So you can go to the type in the path tool or it's a bit advanced,

but the reason I still don't use the tool is even if you do that,

you hold down the option key on a PC or the old key on a mac,

and you convert to that tool, but that's getting a bit advanced.

So that's why they have the tool.

Then actually, before we go any further, because we want the text along the top

and the bottom, what's really important is to make a couple of copies of this.

I'm going to make one copy, hit command D to have a second copy.

Can just leave these over here. That'll make more sense in a second.

Just putting those on there.

Okay.

so Nixon, so back to my type tool.

Okay.

Type on a path and I'm going to click right at the top in the center.

Because remember, wherever I click it will start the line.

And it's kind of just easier being at the top.

Let's type in what we need.

I'm going to type in 100% natural okay.

And one thing is is that it's kind of not over here.

You know, it's kind of like starting there,

moving to the left okay, we'll go centered.

Then it ends up at the bottom because it starts there and ends there.

So it's at the bottom.

We can do some funny stuff with the type options, but actually

what you end up doing is this script, just a regular old selection tool

and rotate it around holding shift so it kind of snaps into place.

Now it's at the top.

That is way easier than trying to maneuver those little,

white dots and maneuver those, like, little white arrows either side.

See them there? Okay.

Their pain just rotated around.

All right.

I'm going to do some font stuff, and you wait there.

Okay.

This is one of the fonts that I was using in my, kind of like logo type design.

I really like it.

So I'm going to use it here.

All right.

And you'll notice I put extra spaces in. He exists.

Kind of separate them up I've just use the spacebar key.

You should, select this area here and go into your tracking okay.

And increase that.

Okay.

This the, space between characters, but I just put in space bars.

There's the right way.

And then there's the way that probably is going to get done.

All right, the next problem is getting this text down the bottom.

And the big moment is there's no way of getting this text,

you know, to be on the bottom as well and be flipped around, okay.

There's just no way.

So what we do is we bring back this okay.

And I'm going to go to my outline mode.

Who remembers what the shortcut is.

Command y Ctrl y on a PC and grab the center.

I'm going to line it up with this one I see I'm going to do the next to each other

because it's easier to do them separately and then just plop them on

top of each other afterwards.

Okay, so get outline mode.

I'm going to grab my type on a path tool,

and I'm going to click down the bottom looking for the anchor point.

There you go.

And we're going to have ingredients

that goes well there you go.

So next thing I want to do is it still centered.

Perfect I've got the right size and font because I know what I used last time.

How do we get down the bottom. We go up to type okay.

And we go to type on a path there.

Is there go down to type options.

And basically you want to preview on and get to flip you like means

not quite working. That's okay. Click okay.

We're going to rotate it around like we did before.

And it's still not quite working because this one back is on the outside.

Remember the base line and the ascenders and D centers I'm using an all caps font.

So basically I want it to not be you know, on the base line.

I want it to be on the.

Can you remember what it was. Let's go have a look.

You think about it while we find it.

So type type in a path type options.

Can you remember make sure previews aren't always off.

It's a pain.

And we're going to go to not baseline not descender which is down the bottom.

We're going to click to the ascenders.

Or what we might do is actually just get them both to be centered.

You center okay.

Go to this one Type Options tab on a path

and go to center.

Why did I say just go to center, not ascenders?

Did you notice it wasn't quite lining up?

Every font's different.

Sometimes the ascender is bang on the top and sometimes the font designer

has it a bit higher.

It's not always the same, but the center is generally

a really good way of doing it.

Okay, trouble with the center is

I need to probably spaces out a little bit more, especially this one.

So I'm going to go to type.

We're going to go to type in a path.

Let's go to type in a path options

preview.

Instead of going to spacing and going to auto, don't use the up and down.

It kind of jumps to like a really big number.

So I'm going to go to zero.

I'm going to go plus a bit.

Nope I'm going to go minus a bit okay.

And spacing that looks nicer and matches the one down the bottom okay.

And now I'm going to line them up together.

I'm going to use my outline view so that it's easier to see both circles.

Here we go.

You will have to play around with the spacing for both the top one

and the bottom differently, because often the tops of fonts kind of meet that.

If it's especially if you're using, upper and lower case,

the tops of the fonts can look like they have lots of gaps,

whereas the bottoms of them,

basically all the letters, all kind of smushed down the bottom.

So they look like they're tighter, but play around

with the spacing on either of them.

This one needs more.

Make sure previews on.

All right.

Now we have our little badge.

So the big takeaway is to make sure that you have two separate circles.

If you want to adjust them both.

Now select them all okay.

And kind of drag them using shift to go bigger or smaller.

But if you want to do the tab in the path options are actually,

two separate circles that you need to select once.

Do it select twice and go back up to type on the path.

This is troubling

when somebody groups them okay okay I'm going to group it down here.

And people get confused about like how do I like what it looks like.

They're on the same path,

but we know now they're actually just two separate circles

on top of each other, grouped.

Okay.

Last thing I want to do is I'm going to grab this that we did earlier.

Which one looks better. That one looks good.

Copy it paste it in okay.

And I'm going to pick a black stroke.

Make it an appropriate size.

Can you see there I'm not scaling stroke in effects.

It's one of those times where actually I do want to.

So I'm going to go up to transform go to there I'm going to say actually

what I'm going to do is kind of get it down to this

where I feel like it's a nice weight in comparison to everything else.

And then I'm going to say actually scale the effects for me,

a little stroke so that it gets bigger

and then not be happy with it because it's touching.

But it's enough for this.

If you want lines top and bottom, okay, you can use the Ellipse Tool

and you should be able to without the outline view okay.

Find the center. Generally you can kind of get there.

There it is there.

How do I drag out something from the center.

Who remembers okay, so shift gets a perfect circle.

But we also held down the option key on a mac.

Okay. On a PC I can say you there we go.

So I'm gonna make one line there and I'm going to draw,

another line, actually, it wants to drag it out.

So I'm going to I'm going to click off in the background,

go back to my, circle tool, find the center.

Oh, it's becoming trickier.

Hold down those same two keys and do something like this.

If I wanted to fill that okay, I could grab both circles.

We'll do some hardcore masking in a little bit.

But the easy way for this right now, with our current skills is to select

both of them, use the Shape Builder tool and just fill that section with something.

Let's fill it with white or white.

And play around with the layer order.

We're getting deep range in the back.

I know how you feeling.

Like we're building on lots of different skills now.

I hope you're finding it useful. Okay we scaling straight.

Going to fix.

We are dragging sweet circles from the center.

We're using the Shape Builder tool.

This is kind of more how you be using illustrator.

If you do have a problem like I do now is about to finish this video.

I'm like I'm in it to so far away.

So the top in the path option does everything together right?

Whereas if I want if I select the T okay.

So just with the type tool okay.

You know the human brow tracking that we kind of do earlier for the spacing.

This is handy now because I'm going to hold shift and hit down

okay.

It'll just do that gap just after the little you have selected.

So there might be a bit of this we like actually that one hangs out too much.

I'm going to hold shift to go down in lumps of tin.

You see I'm kind of moving that one in a little bit, so that makes sense.

Especially if it's a bad

you're going to reuse a lot of times, you know,

it's quite important to the brand and the company.

You might want to spend a bit of time tidying up the spacing using tracking.

Okay.

At the beginning I, hinted that there was a problem,

so you may or may not run into it.

And so I'm just going to update this video with some problems that I created okay.

And solutions for them. It's been cool.

Kind of learn something about it.

making this video I thought I was the master of type in the path

now in the master. So the problem is, is when I scale it down.

So selecting it all, and if I scale it down, couple of problems happen.

First of all, the stroke is scaling which is not what I want.

So let's get that first problem out of the way.

So I'm going to have nothing selected.

Go over to here and say let's scale the stroke and fix.

So I want to scale it down

the line around the outside, the white one and the line of my leaf.

I kind of just made mine look a bit different in between that little jump cut.

There. There you go.

The next problem is can you see ingredients stays the same.

But like 100%.

Every time I get smaller keys it starts growing and wrapping around.

And so we're going to smooshed into ingredients.

How was that problem doing. It just work it out.

It was because what we did was is two parts to this.

Right.

So I'm going to ungroup it and I've got you I'm

just going to plop that over there so I can select on this.

But this is the problem child.

So we're going to go to type type in a path member.

When we're missing with this I went our spacing.

We just pick any old spacing.

normally I leave it at auto okay.

In this case I went to -40 to kind of tidy it down a little bit.

The problem with that is it's what's called an absolute size.

It has to be 40. Doesn't matter what size it is,

the spacing is going to be 40 pixels or 40 points.

So that's where the problem lies.

So even when it's gigantic, it's going to be 40 points when it's small 40 points.

So that's what makes it kind of wrap around when it's small.

Can you see it just kind of wraps around trying to always be 40 points.

So there's two things we could do.

the way I would do it okay is selecting it all okay.

Actually no.

Turn the absolute size off.

So object type on a path.

Where are we. Sorry.

Type top on a path and go to auto.

Okay. So I'm gonna leave it at auto kind of tuck.

So then you're like oh I want to space it out.

How do I do that?

We can select all the text and just use tracking.

We looked at a little bit. Right.

So tracking we can increase okay.

So we can increase it all.

We get the same result I'm going to hold shift and click up to get a bigger jump.

We can still once we get it all to 50 we can go through and say you

I want to be even less to kind of tidy that one up in a little bit.

So get it all balanced.

The cool thing about using tracking here is that it should scale with everything.

So look.

There in the middle I think.

So select the row I'm going to group it just because I want it to be one unit.

And look hey it works.

And we all learned something okay.

So that and that auto spacing was the problem.

There you go.

I said there was two ways.

The other way is quite brutal okay.

Is I duplicate it.

You notice because I want the editable text version

okay where I can go through and change stuff

if I need to, if the client comes back or needs a different font.

Okay,

This one here, they're all selected.

I'm going to go to object.

Remember I expand I'm going to have to do it a couple of times.

Expand appearance expand. Click okay.

Now it is like very broken apart.

Like see this thing over here?

I'm going to ungroup it.

This thing here was that effect with the width tool okay.

And we can increase it.

And we've got a lot of control because I've expanded everything that is now fill.

And I can't do anything with it.

Like it's can't be changed.

Well I can adjust it like a fill but I can't use that cool stroke effect.

I can't go and adjust the texts now, just kind of like bits and pieces.

It looks like text, but it's no longer editable. Okay.

It's another use of that expand expand appearance thing.

There you go.

I'd probably just change it to tracking so you can keep the control of it.

But there you go.

Expand appearance, expand everything.

All right.

that became a big video, but we learned some stuff.

I learned some stuff too, and.

Yeah, there you go. I will see you in the next video.